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I've started this topic because I am under the impression that ahk works with The Trading Zoo and he is active on this forum and may be able to provide information and comments about this service.

I believe that it will be constructive to have a topic/thread dedicated to The Trading Zoo so that the merits of this service can be discussed in isolation to the other topics which have collectively dealt with several trading services in the same topic including The Trading Zoo.
official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/10/07
trade #1
b (8) 1416.50
s (4) 1417.50
s (4) 1415.50

trade #2
b (8) 1416.50
s (4) 1417.50
s (1) 1418.50
s (1) 1419.50
s (2) 1416.50
quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/10/07
trade #1
b (8) 1416.50
s (4) 1417.50
s (4) 1415.50

trade #2
b (8) 1416.50
s (4) 1417.50
s (1) 1418.50
s (1) 1419.50
s (2) 1416.50




Daily Summary for the official trades called today in the Trading Zoo....

total trades = 2

total number of contracts per trade = 8

total contracts = 2 trades * 8 contracts/trade = 16 contracts

number of wins on 1st target = 2
number of wins on 2nd target = 1
number of wins on 3rd target = 1
number of wins on 4th target = 0
number of losing trades = 0

% wins on 1st target = 100 %
% wins on 2nd target = 50 %
% wins on 3rd target = 50 %
% wins on 4th target = 0 %
% stop-loss = 0 %

Total ES ticks Gained 1st target: 2 trades * 4 ticks * 4 contracts = 32 ticks
Total ES ticks Gained 2nd target: 1 trade * 8 ticks = 16 ticks
Total ES ticks Gained 3rd target: 1 trade * 12 ticks = 12 ticks
Total ES ticks Gained 4th target: 0 ticks


Total ES ticks Profit = total 1st target + total 2nd target + total 3rd target + total 4th target
= 32 ticks + 16 ticks + 12 ticks + 0 ticks
= 60 ES ticks

Total ES ticks Lost: 4 contracts * 4 ticks = 16 ES ticks

Gross win/loss ratio = Total Profit / Total Loss = 60 ticks / 16 ticks = 3.75

Gross profit or loss = 60 ticks - 16 ticks = + 44 ES ticks

Avg. profit per contract = total gross profit / total number of contracts
= 60 ticks / 16 contracts = 3.75 ES ticks per contract

Avg. loss per contract = total gross loss / total number of contracts
= 16 ticks / 16 contracts = 1.0 ES ticks per contract
official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/11/07
trade #1
s (8) 1429.00
b (4) 1428.00
b (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1429.50
b (4) 1428.50
b (4) 1430.50

trade #3
s (8) 1431.75
b (4) 1430.75
b (1) 1429.75
b (3) 1431.75

trade #4*
s (16) 1434.875
b (6) 1434.50
b (6) 1433.50
b (4) 1433.25

note* trade #4 is an average of 2 separate trades. the first was s (8) @ 1434.25 and the second was s (8) @ 1435.50. guru "added" to first trade rather then getting stopped out.

quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/11/07
trade #1
s (8) 1429.00
b (4) 1428.00
b (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1429.50
b (4) 1428.50
b (4) 1430.50

trade #3
s (8) 1431.75
b (4) 1430.75
b (1) 1429.75
b (3) 1431.75

trade #4*
s (16) 1434.875
b (6) 1434.50
b (6) 1433.50
b (4) 1433.25

note* trade #4 is an average of 2 separate trades. the first was s (8) @ 1434.25 and the second was s (8) @ 1435.50. guru "added" to first trade rather then getting stopped out.





Daily Summary for official trades called by the Trading Zoo service:

total trades = 5 { see note at bottom for clarification }

total number of ES contracts per trade = 8

total number of contracts = 40 ES contracts

number of wins on 1st target = 3
number of wins on 2nd target = 1
number of wins on 3rd target = 0
number of losing trades = 0
number of break-even trades = 2

% wins = 60 %
% stop-loss = 0 %
% break-even = 40 %

Total ticks Profit 1st target = (trades 1, 2, 3) + (trade 4 part 1) =
(12 contracts * 4 ticks) + (8 contracts * 2 ticks) = 64 ticks
Total ticks Profit 2nd target = (trade 3) + (trade 4 part 2)
= (1 contract * 8 ticks) + ((2 contracts * 8 ticks) + (6 contracts * 9 ticks))
= 8 + 16 + 54 ticks = 78 ticks
Total ticks Profit 3rd target = 0
Total Profit 64 + 78 + 0 ticks = 142 ES ticks

Total ticks Lost 1st target = 0 ticks
Total ticks Lost 2nd target = (trades 1, 2) = 8 contracts * 4 ticks = 32 ticks
Total ticks Lost 3rd target = 0 ticks
Total Loss = 32 ES ticks

Gross win/loss ratio = Total Profit / Total Loss = 142 ticks / 32 ticks = 4.44

Gross profit or loss = + 110 ES ticks


Avg. profit per contract = total gross profit / total number of contracts
= 142 ticks / 40 contracts = 3.5 ES ticks per contract

Avg. loss per contract = total gross loss / total number of contracts
= 32 ticks / 40 contracts = 0.8 ES ticks per contract

Note: to clarify the tallies, I separated trade 4 into it's two individual entries, which I denoted above as trade 4 part 1 (for the 1434.25 entry) and trade 4 part 2 (for the 1435.50 entry).
official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/12/07
trade #1
b (8) 1431.00
s (4) 1432.00
s (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1439.00
b (8) 1438.00
b (8) 1437.00

<< edited by day trading - see subsequent postings >>
quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/12/07
trade #1
b (8) 1431.00
s (4) 1432.00
s (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1439.00
b (8) 1438.00



actually....trade #2 went for two points down to 1437.00....I was also a tourist this week to the trading zoo...I am not a member.
quote:
Originally posted by youknowwho

quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/12/07
trade #1
b (8) 1431.00
s (4) 1432.00
s (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1439.00
b (8) 1438.00



actually....trade #2 went for two points down to 1437.00....I was also a tourist this week to the trading zoo...I am not a member.



i left after the 1438 was pierced and assumed the guru was going to close his position since he complained about being in the room so long for a friday. apparently these folks like to leave early on fridays after the make the numbers. if you will confirm he sold his entire position at 1437 i ask pt to adjust the number. no offense but please try to make no mistake about this. ive tried to be very accurate during this trial. thanks for your input.
quote:
Originally posted by max

quote:
Originally posted by youknowwho

quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/12/07
trade #1
b (8) 1431.00
s (4) 1432.00
s (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1439.00
b (8) 1438.00



actually....trade #2 went for two points down to 1437.00....I was also a tourist this week to the trading zoo...I am not a member.



i left after the 1438 was pierced and assumed the guru was going to close his position since he complained about being in the room so long for a friday. apparently these folks like to leave early on fridays after the make the numbers. if you will confirm he sold his entire position at 1437 i ask pt to adjust the number. no offense but please try to make no mistake about this. ive tried to be very accurate during this trial. thanks for your input.



yes..the guru sold his position at 1437...and called it a week..I also sold at 1437 on the first "quarter" position...but eventually got stopped out at entry on the last "quarter" position for a net of 1 point per contract for me...However, the guru sold his remaining position at 1437 and called it quits for the day.
quote:
Originally posted by youknowwho

quote:
Originally posted by max

quote:
Originally posted by youknowwho

quote:
Originally posted by max

official calls made and taken by the guru. 8 lot es contracts per position.

1/12/07
trade #1
b (8) 1431.00
s (4) 1432.00
s (4) 1430.00

trade #2
s (8) 1439.00
b (8) 1438.00



actually....trade #2 went for two points down to 1437.00....I was also a tourist this week to the trading zoo...I am not a member.



i left after the 1438 was pierced and assumed the guru was going to close his position since he complained about being in the room so long for a friday. apparently these folks like to leave early on fridays after the make the numbers. if you will confirm he sold his entire position at 1437 i ask pt to adjust the number. no offense but please try to make no mistake about this. ive tried to be very accurate during this trial. thanks for your input.



yes..the guru sold his position at 1437...and called it a week..I also sold at 1437 on the first "quarter" position...but eventually got stopped out at entry on the last "quarter" position for a net of 1 point per contract for me...However, the guru sold his remaining position at 1437 and called it quits for the day.



pt please adjust the numbers to reflect this information.

dt can you edit my 1/12/07 post and make the correction for trade #2?

thank you......................max
quote:
Originally posted by youknowwho

yes..the guru sold his position at 1437...and called it a week..I also sold at 1437 on the first "quarter" position...but eventually got stopped out at entry on the last "quarter" position for a net of 1 point per contract for me...However, the guru sold his remaining position at 1437 and called it quits for the day.


youknowwho,

First, let's establish that I don't know you, you don't know me and we have never corresponded away from this forum.

Did you get the impression the guru was actually taking the trades he called as Max has published?

Also, did you see or hear anything or get any indication or feeling during the trial that The Trading Zoo is a scam or a fraudulent operation?

Thanks for taking the time to visit the Zoo. If you have any interest in learning more or have any questions, please contact me and I will promptly get back to you.
For what it's worth, I was an original Trading Zoo student. Sam Baum's system was dangerous, all counter-trend with short profit targets with larger invisible stops.

A few of us students started out own Skype room to ignore the teacher's setups but rather take in his priceless information regarding the e-mini, which alone was worth the $6,000 as I gained a true understanding of how to read and trade ANY liquid market. I think one of the traders using our new modified trend setups with trailing stops actually sent someone his trading statements to someone on another forum years ago which shut the naysayer up quick.

Anyways, Trading Zoo is back but run by some of the traders who have been successful for over the past 6 years using our modified system.
I want to personally promote this because of all the original TradingZoo did for me.