there were many forcasts from those with astrological bent about the maximum stress expected around this time and how it will show up in markets... i am in the unique position in my other life of spending every day with the marginalized masses that are just statistics in the links jim provides..in the past few weeks it has been endless horror....rape ,incest, murder, child molestation, severe addiction,suicides,, violence upon violence... horror upon horror....much of the links speculate how it will all play out... right now the marginalized have nots are hurting themselves and each other...soon they will turn on the haves like you and me....

Yeah, imagine when things are worse on the street in an obvious way than during the Great Depression. That's why I see this Mad Max world coming...

in many of jim's links,an idea is spoken around that i would like to express in my own words..fundamental to a democracy is a thriving robust middle class.the lower classes will put up with almost anything as long as the legitimate opportunity exists through hard work and effort to make it to the middle class.that opportunity is gone in this country.. the demise of the middle class signals the demise of this country.

It's sad what has happened, but I agree with your read, roofer...