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jimkane
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I'll start it off. I'm still trying to figure out how to be useful in my posting and not post hundreds of times per week. I can't seem to not get carried away. (That's why I never post in the early AM session, where it takes more concentration.) Then I burn myself out, and use up my precious resources that I should be reserving for my health issues. And I'm only posting a fraction of what I'm seeing... It just drives me nuts to see all this and not try to post it. I do have to come up with a solution.
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It's not that I don't like it all....the play by play, the before the fact AND the followup charts....it is very hard to choose only one.
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jimkane
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Well, here' s one of the things I had thought of, that I had pondered, to help me get over what happened here. (One of the biggest factors in all this was that I thought I was highly respected, especially because I had done so many posts with concept ideas, long posts that took me a lot of time and effort. I felt a lot of trust in the community. I thought I was one of the most highly respected members. To have that trust violated, to be turned on, to have what felt like no one step up on my behalf, the violation of the trust, the trust to be part of a community and to be protected, that was what messed me up. I even struggle in my own physical neighborhood since then, not feeling the trust any more. I keep waiting for them to turn on me. I am unable to be a part of my community here like I used to be. All because of my experience here.)
So, I pondered the idea of doing a live voice chat for some period of time, let's say a month. Only my voice, no feedback, no other people allowed to speak. Bell to bell, every day. Nothing but me calling trades. It would be free, and open to everyone. I would want to heavily advertise it. I'd pay for all that, as part of my healing process. I'd like to have at least 100,000 people listening in. No sales pitch, no explanation of the techniques involved, just a demonstration and that's it. I would allow/want everyone in the public part of this forum to be listening.
What I was thinking is that this would work well with the ending of the sales of my books. That way it would not be seen as a publicity stunt to get sales (like promoting your product is a great sin in the eyes of all these people, that I just don't get, they seem to have no problem buying products they see on TV...). It would also satisfy my need that once they see the results (since I won't make any claims, maybe the calls would suck, I can't say how they would be, but based on my track record in here maybe they wouldn't be too bad, huh?) they would not be able to benefit from that in any way. I would not be available to assist them in any way.
All I want is for them to see. See that they tossed out what I think was the best thing they could ever ask for, and all I got was a 'don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out'. I want them to regret all that they lost. But, none of that is ever going to happen. It's really not about wanting to help others, it's about playing games, who is the dominant one or dominant group in a given thread, about not threatening their sense of control of that topic or violating their unwritten rules, about them 'showing off', and so on, not about a genuine desire to help other traders. That's my opinion. And you can't fight that.
You can't make those people who shredded me have pure hearts. So, you have to leave it, and let it go. And, as you all see, I have trouble letting it go... My heart was pure and my intentions honest and only to give of myself, and their opinions of me are the opposite, and I have trouble just accepting that.
So, I pondered the idea of doing a live voice chat for some period of time, let's say a month. Only my voice, no feedback, no other people allowed to speak. Bell to bell, every day. Nothing but me calling trades. It would be free, and open to everyone. I would want to heavily advertise it. I'd pay for all that, as part of my healing process. I'd like to have at least 100,000 people listening in. No sales pitch, no explanation of the techniques involved, just a demonstration and that's it. I would allow/want everyone in the public part of this forum to be listening.
What I was thinking is that this would work well with the ending of the sales of my books. That way it would not be seen as a publicity stunt to get sales (like promoting your product is a great sin in the eyes of all these people, that I just don't get, they seem to have no problem buying products they see on TV...). It would also satisfy my need that once they see the results (since I won't make any claims, maybe the calls would suck, I can't say how they would be, but based on my track record in here maybe they wouldn't be too bad, huh?) they would not be able to benefit from that in any way. I would not be available to assist them in any way.
All I want is for them to see. See that they tossed out what I think was the best thing they could ever ask for, and all I got was a 'don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out'. I want them to regret all that they lost. But, none of that is ever going to happen. It's really not about wanting to help others, it's about playing games, who is the dominant one or dominant group in a given thread, about not threatening their sense of control of that topic or violating their unwritten rules, about them 'showing off', and so on, not about a genuine desire to help other traders. That's my opinion. And you can't fight that.
You can't make those people who shredded me have pure hearts. So, you have to leave it, and let it go. And, as you all see, I have trouble letting it go... My heart was pure and my intentions honest and only to give of myself, and their opinions of me are the opposite, and I have trouble just accepting that.
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jimkane
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Point is, and then I'll stop, one of the things we learn as traders is that a sure route to ruin is using trading to address personal issues. Issues of self worth, issues of anger, issues of needing to prove things, and so on. That will get you killed. I'm trying to use the forum to address issues for me about what happened to me 'out there'. So, instead of just using the forum for what I intended it to be for, I have incorporated into it addressing an issue I have. And that's probably not a good thing.
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jimkane
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Will we see our move to the low 40's today (or even 47)? Well, it has its chance now, but I'm not sure if it has the juice.
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rat89
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it looks like it wants to roll, but it also looks like it wants to spring a trap and make a new high....how nice
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roofer
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jim- one of anything would be fine... but as in the case of the previously raised question about different data feed there are essentially two different groups here acting on different data feed,,, the book buyers and the mentor students,,,each doing the best they can with what they have...obviously you can not show the non mentor what the mentor have been shown...
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jimkane
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They are doing a good job making it look like it is going to dump hard. On such a rangy day it's most likely just a trap/game.
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jimkane
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Yeah, that's a big issue. I really need to have a separate area as a part of my website for mentor students.
Originally posted by roofer
jim- one of anything would be fine... but as in the case of the previously raised question about different data feed there are essentially two different groups here acting on different data feed,,, the book buyers and the mentor students,,,each doing the best they can with what they have...obviously you can not show the non mentor what the mentor have been shown...
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roofer
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my daughter the dr says YES THIS really is the way it is
http://idealmedicalpractices.typepad.com/ideal_medical_practices/2009/02/how-do-doctors-get-paid-.html
http://idealmedicalpractices.typepad.com/ideal_medical_practices/2009/02/how-do-doctors-get-paid-.html