ES Fri 8-5-11

On Thursday the market opened below the value area and never returned to it so not giving the Market Profile trader a chance to get short from the VAL. Considering the size of the down day we had today I'm surprised that we only got one single print out of it in the Q bracket at 1206 even.

there is a rumor circulating around wall street dealers that s&p will downgrade the US after the close today

take as what it is, a rumor, but since i heard it market has gone completely crazy and jumpy

the 88.25 was almost exceeded by 3 pts, so do you look at the projection using 202.75 as bottom instead of 207.25 ?

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by ayn

prestwickdrive, if you are around, how would you treat that 1min bar that spiked down before the 8:30 data and then obviously moved up leaving a gap in data in between

do you take the low and high of that red bar prior to 8:30 (that is 1191.75 - 1202.25) ? if so, the market stopped right at its full projection of 219.25

thank you

ayn,

I am using two sets of projections off the jobs number. On the upside the move from 1191.75-1219.0 gives an initial projection of 1236.0 and a full of 1263.25. The retrace off of 1219.0 to 1207.25 gives an initial projection of 1200.00 and a full of 1188.25. A touch of 1191.75 negates the up projection and a touch of 1219 negates the down one.

1263.25 and 1236.0 projections failed on touch of 1191.75. 1188.25 projection hit

im getting a bad reading on my VWAP what price do you guys have for VWAP

Originally posted by ayn

the 88.25 was almost exceeded by 3 pts, so do you look at the projection using 202.75 as bottom instead of 207.25 ?

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by ayn

prestwickdrive, if you are around, how would you treat that 1min bar that spiked down before the 8:30 data and then obviously moved up leaving a gap in data in between

do you take the low and high of that red bar prior to 8:30 (that is 1191.75 - 1202.25) ? if so, the market stopped right at its full projection of 219.25

thank you

ayn,

I am using two sets of projections off the jobs number. On the upside the move from 1191.75-1219.0 gives an initial projection of 1236.0 and a full of 1263.25. The retrace off of 1219.0 to 1207.25 gives an initial projection of 1200.00 and a full of 1188.25. A touch of 1191.75 negates the up projection and a touch of 1219 negates the down one.

1263.25 and 1236.0 projections failed on touch of 1191.75. 1188.25 projection hit

Once that projection got exceeded I looked at the next cycle low off the high. That was 1219-1202.75 giving an initial of 1192.75 that hit and a full of 1176.5 that is valid until 1219 is taken out. Off the cycle low of 1283.0 I used the move to 1190.25 giving an an initial of 1194.75 and a full of 1202.0 which both hit.

I am primarily trading crude oil and using the ES as a clue for CL direction so I am going to have to cut back on posts here as I am missing some good trades. Happy trading to all and have a great weekend.

thanks for your help and good luck !

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by ayn

the 88.25 was almost exceeded by 3 pts, so do you look at the projection using 202.75 as bottom instead of 207.25 ?

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by prestwickdrive

Originally posted by ayn

prestwickdrive, if you are around, how would you treat that 1min bar that spiked down before the 8:30 data and then obviously moved up leaving a gap in data in between

do you take the low and high of that red bar prior to 8:30 (that is 1191.75 - 1202.25) ? if so, the market stopped right at its full projection of 219.25

thank you

ayn,

I am using two sets of projections off the jobs number. On the upside the move from 1191.75-1219.0 gives an initial projection of 1236.0 and a full of 1263.25. The retrace off of 1219.0 to 1207.25 gives an initial projection of 1200.00 and a full of 1188.25. A touch of 1191.75 negates the up projection and a touch of 1219 negates the down one.

1263.25 and 1236.0 projections failed on touch of 1191.75. 1188.25 projection hit

Once that projection got exceeded I looked at the next cycle low off the high. That was 1219-1202.75 giving an initial of 1192.75 that hit and a full of 1176.5 that is valid until 1219 is taken out. Off the cycle low of 1283.0 I used the move to 1190.25 giving an an initial of 1194.75 and a full of 1202.0 which both hit.

I am primarily trading crude oil and using the ES as a clue for CL direction so I am going to have to cut back on posts here as I am missing some good trades. Happy trading to all and have a great weekend.

We just hit 11, 150 on INDU

ECB boys must be AWOL, on vacation. To be so far behinds the curve....

Italian PM is giving a press-conference. What is Italian for "do not worry"? lol

oh, yeah, "forget about it"...

ECB will buy Spanisha nd Italian bonds if Berlusconi promises cutbacks. He is scheduled to speak in 25 min

Downgrade or no downgrade, the status quo is deplorable indeed... in the USA, Europe, Japan... a downgrade at this point is just a symbolic kick in the leg.