This is the ES at 8:30pm ET on Wednesday. On yesterday's ES topic I called a buy at 1148 or 1148.5 based on the single print and VAH but that call was nullified because we opened in the value area and the Initial Balance (IB) was formed inside the value area.
Market Profile theory looks for a day to be contained inside the value area when the IB is formed inside the value area. The market followed the theory and traded mostly inside in the value area and you will notice that the value area for today's trading is now, as a result, inside the previous day's value area.
Even though the market traded off the value areas it was, in my opinion, a truly scary market to trade off those lines with such fast markets and such a large range.
Have a look at the 5, 10, 20 and 40 day average ranges on this page:
http://www.mypivots.com/dailynotes/symbol/445/-1/e-mini-sp500-september-2011
We don't often see 70+ average ranges over 5 trading days.
Had you shorted the 1148 VAH on Wednesday you would have suffered through a 9 point draw down (or been stopped out) however the VAL target was only 1.5 points above the low of the day so you couldn't have wanted for a better target down there.
NI
NickP
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ah ok, if it is not too much trouble i would love to see a chart whenever you have a moment of what you were looking at (cum delta wise) when you entered that short around the 65 area
needless to say there is no rush at all
needless to say there is no rush at all
Originally posted by BruceM
I use cum delta but not just for divergences...I like the pure flips in regular delta at key prices...
BR
BruceM
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It took me two tries to buy under the key 55 area but note the divergence in the pure delta...I donot take signals in a vacuum ..u must have a key area...for me it is low volume
This is the same chart but not broken out with the footprint data...just a plain renko to help filter out noise
This is the same chart but not broken out with the footprint data...just a plain renko to help filter out noise
BR
BruceM
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This morning I had a low volume area at 24 - 25. That also corresponded to the Va low and the previous close. How many tries would you take at your key areas before you get one to really take off ?
You can see the small loss or slight profit I had and you potentially would have before getting the good signal.....So you can trade in this volatility with tighter stops if you aren't afraid to take a loss and try again. I am not averaging in during these market days
here is the chart..I also marked off an exit I took up near vwap..
remember this: we want to put trades on in low volume in order to get back into high volume areas and distributions!!
You can see the small loss or slight profit I had and you potentially would have before getting the good signal.....So you can trade in this volatility with tighter stops if you aren't afraid to take a loss and try again. I am not averaging in during these market days
here is the chart..I also marked off an exit I took up near vwap..
remember this: we want to put trades on in low volume in order to get back into high volume areas and distributions!!






