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jimkane
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Here's a curious thing. I've had two huge blow ups with two 'good' friends in the past, one you know by name (no, not roofer, we barely argued at all). The arguments went 100% to the letter like this one, which also mirrors the other blowup in here. I also had another person where it was going in that direction. The one thing they all had in common, in my opinion? They were all extreme right brainers. I know they like to say nowadays that left brain/right brain is all a myth, but there is a huge difference in analytical/mathematical/logical thinkers, and 'artistic' thinkers, for lack of a better phrase. The similarity to the strategies and lack of ability to follow the simplest line of logical reasoning is inherent in all of it.
One person made endless claims, which I said were not true. I provided all the email correspondence from years earlier showing everything I said was spot on, and everything he said was completely BS, and the expected response, 'Oh, I see, I guess you had it correct' was instead a vicious attack on me and diversion from the issues that basically ended the friendship. I find this typical. And these are the very same people who will be voting for Hillary Clinton, and who are our only hope against what is coming. Reminds me (the movie guy) about a line from Joe vs. the Volcano, paraphrased: Okay, so what hope do you have? I have the hope I just explained to you. Okay, so ya got no hope.
One person made endless claims, which I said were not true. I provided all the email correspondence from years earlier showing everything I said was spot on, and everything he said was completely BS, and the expected response, 'Oh, I see, I guess you had it correct' was instead a vicious attack on me and diversion from the issues that basically ended the friendship. I find this typical. And these are the very same people who will be voting for Hillary Clinton, and who are our only hope against what is coming. Reminds me (the movie guy) about a line from Joe vs. the Volcano, paraphrased: Okay, so what hope do you have? I have the hope I just explained to you. Okay, so ya got no hope.
Originally posted by MarcinO
His lack of logic is astonishing.
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jimkane
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Marcin, maybe you could mention in that maniac's thread that I have hundreds of free commentary and articles on the website where people can judge the merits of my work for free. Most of what's in the books is in that commentary. Then he'll say the only way to judge someone's merit is with statements. Or live trade calls, which he does, but I only do in secret. Then you can tell him that anyone is welcome in my private forum who is a follower of my techniques and can and will contribute.
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MarcinO
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And then he will say that I am advertising your services.
Originally posted by jimkane
Marcin, maybe you could mention in that maniac's thread that I have hundreds of free commentary and articles on the website where people can judge the merits of my work for free. Most of what's in the books is in that commentary. Then he'll say the only way to judge someone's merit is with statements. Or live trade calls, which he does, but I only do in secret. Then you can tell him that anyone is welcome in my private forum who is a follower of my techniques and can and will contribute.
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MarcinO
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He started to delete my answers in his thread. Cenzorship as in Chinese Internet.
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rat89
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One of the hardest things to learn in trading is how to let go when a trade goes against you. It's a trap of the mind that sucks one in just a little bit farther, thinking it will turn. It doesn't matter if it does. Once a trade doesn't play out it's a failed trade. Get flat and walk away. If it sets up again, great. If it keeps going against what you saw, you're on the side. And you save your emotional capital for the next trade, whatever it is. Easy to do? Hard as hell, even after years of trading. That's where the focus comes in. The best trading days are characterized by a focus that doesn't let distractions throw you off.
This guy, whoever he is, is like a trade gone bad. A waste of precious time and concentration. Every minute spent tangling with him is a minute not spent pushing your trading plan to the next level. The Internet is filled with trolls of all kinds - trading trolls, political trolls, troll trolls - all of whom have endless time to spend sucking others into a black hole of wasted time with them.
Walk away. Put a stop on those discussions that you know will go nowhere good. Be willing to walk away and not care what they say or think.
This guy, whoever he is, is like a trade gone bad. A waste of precious time and concentration. Every minute spent tangling with him is a minute not spent pushing your trading plan to the next level. The Internet is filled with trolls of all kinds - trading trolls, political trolls, troll trolls - all of whom have endless time to spend sucking others into a black hole of wasted time with them.
Walk away. Put a stop on those discussions that you know will go nowhere good. Be willing to walk away and not care what they say or think.
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MarcinO
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You are right rat.
I put emotions aside and simply try to make him mad, as any serious discussion is impossible.
So I am just demo-trading.
I put emotions aside and simply try to make him mad, as any serious discussion is impossible.
So I am just demo-trading.
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rat89
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Ha! He appears to be mad without any help from external forces.
Originally posted by MarcinO
You are right rat.
I put emotions aside and simply try to make him mad, as any serious discussion is impossible.
So I am just demo-trading.
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MarcinO
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You know.. I like to make sure everything works as I planned...
Originally posted by rat89
Ha! He appears to be mad without any help from external forces.
Originally posted by MarcinO
You are right rat.
I put emotions aside and simply try to make him mad, as any serious discussion is impossible.
So I am just demo-trading.
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jimkane
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Seriously, rat, if you ever change careers, be a life coach. Yes, this is exactly like a bad trade. Even worse, it's like you said, a trade that's gone bad and you keep doubling down, hoping it will turn. But it won't. This is the ultimate Nick Leeson move we are doing.
Originally posted by rat89
One of the hardest things to learn in trading is how to let go when a trade goes against you. It's a trap of the mind that sucks one in just a little bit farther, thinking it will turn. It doesn't matter if it does. Once a trade doesn't play out it's a failed trade. Get flat and walk away. If it sets up again, great. If it keeps going against what you saw, you're on the side. And you save your emotional capital for the next trade, whatever it is. Easy to do? Hard as hell, even after years of trading. That's where the focus comes in. The best trading days are characterized by a focus that doesn't let distractions throw you off.
This guy, whoever he is, is like a trade gone bad. A waste of precious time and concentration. Every minute spent tangling with him is a minute not spent pushing your trading plan to the next level. The Internet is filled with trolls of all kinds - trading trolls, political trolls, troll trolls - all of whom have endless time to spend sucking others into a black hole of wasted time with them.
Walk away. Put a stop on those discussions that you know will go nowhere good. Be willing to walk away and not care what they say or think.
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jimkane
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And here's the new topic. Everyone please go there and vote that up (if you think it is good). Also, I added a post to the above one thread, so make sure even if you voted before you go and vote up that one. I know there are more people reading this than four, so please, everyone, help me out. I need to make sure that they don't seem vulnerable to down voting and we get the positive vibes going. Thanks.
http://www.mypivots.com/board/topic/8616/-1/charts-from-4-29-16
http://www.mypivots.com/board/topic/8616/-1/charts-from-4-29-16