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Duane
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for opening this Forum to your students and giving us an opportunity to show our charts and share our ideas.

Here is a chart of todays ABCD's in the russell. I will post a context chart later. Today was one of those days where the market changes direction on Jim's unique Fib numbers, Had you been trading with standard fib numbers you may not have noticed these PTA's. Is it me or is .564 becomming more and more prevalent?

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jimkane
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There has been little to nothing the last two days, so if you saw nothing, and did nothing, you were following your plan. This applies to 3-min and higher setups. There were tick chart setups, but with commissions and slippage the reward/risk is inadequate for me.
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jimkane
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Somebody please post an ES 3-min chart from 10:45 yesterday until the close today.Scale the right side so it has a reasonable two day range when the current market is moving, but not going crazy. You can see this by just going back a few days. I would use 1462 for the top, and 1436 for the bottom. Center the price action, and look at what the last two days have done. Any questions about why a trend-following methodology hasn't shown anything?

On the other hand, if you can vary your style to also trade like Geo, look at all he has found by looking at many more issues across various sectors. I'm not suggesting you try too many new ideas before you even master one, but understand there are a lot of options out there to find setups.
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This is what I call pure nastiness.



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jimkane
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From the movie 'War Games': 'Strange game, the only winning move is not to play...' Hey, sometimes flat is a position. If one feels compelled to trade when the chart looks like this, as I've said in the commentary many times 'fix your head'. Think about it like this. You're trapped in something like the Alamo. You only have so many bullets. I would suggest not shooting at shadows, but to make every shot count, as you only have so many i.e. capital. So, I don't shoot until I 'see the whites of their eyes'.
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Duane
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quote:
Originally posted by mreiserer

Obviously I am not as experienced as you guys with Russell, but personally I have found the last two days very difficult to trade. Either no good setups or setups that look decent and turn out to be crapshoots. Maybe it's just me.




February 13-15, 2004 Commentary (weekend edition)-
Today I would like to start the commentary by relating a little parable. What, Jim, have you gone off the deep end? A parable? Yes, a little parable. I think you will find it interesting.
Quite a while back I had one of my many conversation with Scott Carney. Our topic at the time was messing up in trading. More specifically, not following one's game plan. We were covering things like not waiting for our numbers, taking sub-optimal trades, chasing trades we missed the entry on, and taking trades out of boredom that we shouldn't even be looking at.
Finally I said to him 'So, what do you do then, when you just seem to be doing this stuff, and you know it, but keep doing it anyways?' He gave me an answer that has stuck with me, and became a key mental technique in my game plan. He simply said: 'I put myself in the penalty box.' By this he meant that he pulled the plug on his trading and stood aside, watching, for a set period of time, such as an hour.
I went home after that and took out one of my old baseball style caps from the closet, got a magic marker, and wrote across the top 'In the penalty box'. I decided that if I couldn't adhere to my plan, I was going to be in the penalty box one hour per infraction. After that, with that hat staring at me from the top of one of my monitors, I stayed on track. For a while.
Then I got sloppy. Bamm, on with the hat. I can tell you, for someone who lives to trade, it is like torture. Not only was I in the box for an hour, that didn't mean go have fun and watch TV for an hour, it means watch the screen for an hour with the mouse unplugged. It cured me pretty darn quickly. I think it was one of the best tricks I had ever come up with.
After I continued to improve and get on target with my game plan, I eventually retired 'Mr. Hat' back to the closet. I had little need of this trick anymore. So, why bring this up now? Because it is a great little trick that I wanted to pass along due to how useful I think most traders could find it? Well, partially. But that's not the main reason. It's something else.
You see, this week 'Mr. Hat' came out of retirement. Let me explain. But before I do, I'd like to make a few comments. Just because I run an educational website for traders and write trading books doesn't mean that I'm a perfect trader. I'm only human. I make mistakes. One of the main differences you'll find at this website is that I don't try to cover that up, or paint myself as a guru or a god-like trader.
I like to think of myself as an excellent trader trying very hard to get better. I have very high goals for myself, and I feel that the nature of this game is that one can improve for their entire career as a trader. It doesn't appeal to me to reach an adequate level and then just grind out a living. I want to continuously learn, improve, innovate and discover new things.
Many people are on a quest to find an all-knowing, all-powerful guru who can tell them the 'secret' in a weekend. I'm not that person (and of course, no such person exists). I think I provide the best educational value for my readers when I 'tell it like it is' and show the more realistic aspects of trading.
We are all at different levels of trading, and I feel that I am at a level where I can help a lot of people with their trading. But that level doesn't mean that I am perfect, or that I don't backslide a little from time to time. And it doesn't mean that I can't improve from here.
I think discussing some of the things that happen in my trading is of great value to the readership. And it clearly demonstrates what is so rarely demonstrated on many trading websites: I'm a 'regular guy', I'm human and I make mistakes. Let's look at this week, and the return of 'Mr. Hat'.
This week was a tough week for me in my mini trading. There weren't that many clear setups, and the ones I did get didn't pan out well. This is to be expected. There are great trading weeks and average trading weeks. And there are poor trading weeks. The thing about this last week is not that the trading was poor, per se; it was that the pickings were fairly slim.
This, in and of itself, is not really a problem. The problem starts when one can't just accept that. And that is what happened to me this week. I have been on a pretty good 'streak' for the last few months with the mini. When this week hit, I was having trouble just sitting. I was thinking I have to find something. There must be something there, if I just look hard enough.
That was a clear mistake. If I just sat back and waited for the setups, I would have traded less than usual, but the indications are that I would have profited moderately well for such a poor week. But, no, I just couldn't do it. My 'Trading Plan' said to do it, but I got bored. I started to take sub-optimal trades, and trades based on other, rarely used techniques. My management skills allowed me to 'get away' with all this nonsense, but I was turning a profitable week into a break-even week.
Then it hit me. If I couldn't stay with my plan, and I just couldn't walk away from the screen, there was only one choice left. I made the march to the closet, and took 'Mr. Hat' out of retirement. He was very ominous looking on top of that monitor. But the scare tactics quickly wore off.
I saw a sub-optimal setup after a couple of hours of intensely focusing on a nothing chart, and hit the button. It moved, then stalled, then reversed, and I scratched it. Then the awful truth sunk in. I was totally off my 'Trading Plan'. On went the hat; off went the mouse. Try this sometime; it's a living hell for a trader. Over the last few days of the week 'Mr. Hat' went on a few more times.
As I write this, 'Mr. Hat' is back in the closet, safely back in retirement. No, it's not premature. I've had enough shock therapy. I've collected my head back together, and learned a lesson that I thought I had learned for the last time years ago. This little refresher course was all I needed. Trust me, I'm back on track. I've even come up with a funny little saying for days like this week.
Instead of getting off my plan, when I clearly see that there simply isn't anything, I say out loud: 'I guess I'm playing golf today'. Now, I don't even play golf. But you get the idea. Anything is better than trading off your plan. I hope this little parable has helped.
I'm going to finish by going back to a chart in silver that I posted a while ago. Back on December 5, 2003 I pointed out a really nice 5-point pattern setup on the daily chart.
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mreiserer
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quote:
Originally posted by jimkane

From the movie 'War Games': 'Strange game, the only winning move is not to play...' Hey, sometimes flat is a position. If one feels compelled to trade when the chart looks like this, as I've said in the commentary many times 'fix your head'. Think about it like this. You're trapped in something like the Alamo. You only have so many bullets. I would suggest not shooting at shadows, but to make every shot count, as you only have so many i.e. capital. So, I don't shoot until I 'see the whites of their eyes'.


Very nicely put Jim.
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mreiserer
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Thanks for posting this Duane. You are a living library, heh heh..
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jimkane
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Yeah, Duane seems to know every little 'Kane-ism' I have ever uttered. He is a walking encyclopedia of KT factoids.
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butch1130
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I also thank you for posting that. I have certainly been there in need of the "hat".


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roofer
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back in 84 when the snp was at 100,i would be stressed out by the monstrous intraday volatility shown on the chart... if the dow moved 30 points in a day it was headline news.....

i think you would be surprized how small i trade.except when i am trading the indexes or see a really clear swing trade,i have my screens preset to 700and if i have 4 or 5 trades going that is good enough for me.i always seem to do my best on range bound days like yesterday.a mistake on any one trade just does not register at this size.

i too have my moments with the hat... usually when my health is bad..
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roofer
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thankyou duane i knew it was back there somewhere...